A couple of points from last night's debate on the regional press at City University.
Most of the City journalism students in the audience said they read their local papers - but only a handful would be prepared to pay for local news online.
Most of the students would like to work in the mainstream media - only 17 out of 70 wanted to work for a start-up.
Best live tweet of the night from @alexwalters: "Quite enjoying that the three old media guys are sitting in the middle, eyes up, while the new media lot fiddle with iphones."
The old media guys? That's me; Peter Barron, editor of the Northern Echo; and Roy Greenslade, who chaired the debate.
The iphoners? Patrick Smith of paid content:uk; Judith Townend, of journalism.co.uk; and Joanna Geary, web development editor (business) at The Times.
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